Cheryl Dueck Smith and Carlin Buhrman appeared on the USMB Lead Pods podcast series, hosted by the U.S. Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches (USMB). They co-led a November 5, 2020, session titled “COVID’s Impact on Mental Health.” Smith is an instructor in the M.A. in Marriage and Family Therapy program at Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary and Buhrman is an alumnus of that program. Both offered perspectives on self-care, theology and maintaining balance during this time. Hear the podcast at buzzsprout.com/972541/6220213